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 01 Jan 2002

  INTERVIEWER: If you take a sharp left, in what direction will the load fall?

CANDIDATE:  To the right

INTERVIEWER:  Ah, no!  If you have secured the load properly in the first place, it will NOT fall.


And one utter clown of an interviewer imagines he has contributed something clever and witty to the world.  The question is not from one of my own interviews, but was instead the experience of a friend who had applied for a job as a van driver with a supermarket chain.  I cannot think of a witty reply;  perhaps, "And you, Sir, are a cretin and an onanist" would be as fitting a riposte as you could find. 

What is it about the process of looking for a job that throws up such idiocies at every turn?  From the initial advert in the newspaper right through to interview stage, Human Resource Departments - and what a piece of Newspeak that is in itself - seem quite unaware of the nonsense that they produce day after day.  Let's look at the three main steps of finding new staff:

THE ADVERTISEMENT  
Daft Job Titles are not new, but it is a problem that seems to be getting worse.  The objection is not only that they are naff in themselves, but that sometimes they are so confusing that they may even be seen by some people as not the type of job they want, and thus deter some suitable candidates.  Try this conversation between myself and a very polite and helpful woman in the local Regional offices, one day when their website was down. 

Hello, I've just been looking at your advert in the Jobcentre, and I'm wondering what Regeneration Operatives are when they're at home.

Well, you'd actually be working in a Primary School, you see.

What, are the children all Borgs then?

(Laughs) No, they're not Borgs.  You see, they don't cook school meals on the premises.  They're brought in cooked and chilled, and the school has a microwave, and er, well...

You pop them in the microwave, and press a button?

Yes, that's about the size of it.

And there was me imagining it had something to do with local industry, though I did think that £4.10 an hour was a bit stingy for helping to regenerate the Borders economy.  Ah well, no harm done - but were there any very good kitchen assistants out there who saw the posh title and just moved on to the next ad?

Meaningless Job Specs are just as bad, since it means that people are being paid just to produce stylish-sounding phrases with no substance to them.  Here are a few:

To keep to the organisation's safety policy 
Utter rubbish.  It is the duty of every employee in the country to act in accordance with such regulations, so this is just waffle.

Understand and observe confidentiality
More padding.  This is the sort of thing to be explained at interview or appointment, and no-one insufficiently adult to understand confidentiality should be in the job market at all.  But why put it in a Job Spec?  Will anyone feel unqualified to understand confidentiality? 

Ability to prioritise workload
How many jobs outwith the most unchanging of production lines do NOT require the incumbent to prioritise a workload?   This is part of life, for God's sake!  And is anyone at all put off applying by this "requirement"?  

Be capable of working under pressure
Every job gets busy at some time, and people have to step up a gear.   This is hot air, and yet now seems to appear on every job spec under the sun, even those for the most junior jobs, where "pressure" would seem a slight exaggeration. 

Must be a proactive team player
Let's produce some buzz words, and pretend they mean something.

Enthusiastic and motivated
Assuming that no-one will turn up for interview and claim NOT to be enthusiastic about the job, this would be flatus in any context.  Coming as it did from an Ad for a Senior Manager - whose previous career success will hardly have come from idleness and lack of motivation - it is utterly dismal.  And the most dismal thing of all is that in the HR Department that morning someone thought they were being busy and productive when they came up with the requirement for a Senior Manager to be "enthusiastic".    

APPLICATION FORMS  
I have a revolutionary idea for industry, and that is that those who design things actually try them out before forcing them on other people.  It would only take a few minutes, and the designers might realise that  referees have addresses that require more than three lines, or that some people have work histories or academic qualifications that cannot be squeezed into a box four inches deep.  Here are some other observations:

Intrusive or Immaterial Questions
A resolution for 2002 is not to answer such questions, the most common of which is the one about marital status.  For it is of no concern whatsoever to the potential employer whether a candidate is married, single, divorced - or for that matter is in a formal relationship with a Sooty puppet.  And "Married" does not even mean anything nowadays, with so many people having long-term relationships which are marriages in all but law.  Other objectionable questions are:

Your doctor?  Your next of kin?  
"Details will be provided on appointment" is the only proper answer to such intrusiveness.

Date of Birth AND Age
Why?  Can they not count?   

Previous salary
From now this question will be ignored.  The salary levels for most jobs are set anyway, and the potential employer has no cause to ask this.  Such things are useful guides only for those few senior appointments where a salary is negotiable.

Rehabilitation of Offenders Act
One Friday night in 1969 I was picked up drunk - alas not by a loose woman but by the police.  I spent a night in the cells, and was fined £3.  By 1974, this conviction was considered "spent" under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act, which acknowledges that minor slips many years ago are no guide to the current reliability or respectability of personnel.   Thus, under the Act I may lawfully declare that I have no convictions.

Ah, but some jobs are exempt from the provisions of the Act, and you must declare all convictions.   In these circumstances, employers are meant to explain on the form why the particular job is exempt, and to their credit these guidelines are followed absolutely correctly by Borders College.  But two other public bodies are not so impressive, for neither of them indicate why they are claiming exemption for the job in question.   The reason appears to be that they are under the misapprehension that they have a blanket exemption, so they can just stick it on every application form.   These bodies do NOT have blanket exemption, for jobs with them are exempt only if they meet certain criteria.   I will in future refuse to complete this part of an application form where I feel the employer is unlawfully claiming exemption - at any rate until their claim is satisfactorily explained.

Footnote  I would be surprised if anyone genuinely thought me unsuitable for a job just because I had got drunk when I was a teenager;  it is nonetheless a bit embarrassing to have to put it down (it was even brought up in a recent interview).  I have been in touch with NACRO about this, who naturally support my views completely;  also with the Home Office, who are at present conducting a review of the Act, and are asking for public input.  They claimed great sympathy for my view that one-off victimless "crimes" such as this be redefined as misdemeanours1 and should be notifiable only to very few employers indeed (police etc.).  Not long after this flannel from HM Civil Service, I read that Mr Blunkett was thinking of extending exemptions from the Act.  What can you say?

1Minor traffic offences are so redefined.

INTERVIEWS  
Smiling politely and answering idiotic questions with my natural courtesy is not getting me anywhere.  Time, I think, to react differently to questions such as these:

Can you do e-mails?
Halfway through what I had imagined to be a serious interview, I was asked whether I knew how to send an e-mail.   I replied politely that yes, I used e-mail every day of life.   A couple of minutes later I was asked if I could do a Mail Merge.  Now hold on here.  My CV - and any application form I complete - tends to include words like "Senior Analyst / Programmer" and "Thorough knowledge of MS Office".   And they want to know if I can send an e-mail?   Perhaps the next time I should get up and sit on their desk, and say, "Yes, I can do Mail Merges, and Spreadsheets, and Databases, and Websites, and e-mail and..."  (cue music)

I can send a lit'rate email both emboldened and italicised;
Present a tidy spreadsheet with statistics unromanticised
In short, in matters Microsoft or database-relational
I am the very model - for your Systems Informational

At the very least it should get me a restful time in a local NHS facility.

How important do you think is accuracy at work?
A classic, especially considering recent events in the organisation that asked me that.  But what are you meant to reply?    Are you meant to ask for a scale so that you might consider the question?  Are there alternatives like: 

  • Couldn't give a toss
  • Might think about it on a good day
  • You win some, you lose some
  • Nice to get things right, mostly
  • Yes, I do a good and accurate job

What do they seriously expect people to say?

Could you cope if you were left alone in the office?
Even on my best days I doubt that I could be mistaken for a 16-year-old, so I am at a loss to explain why such questions are asked.   Do these interviewers play Pass the Brain Cell in their spare time?  Do I look like someone who has never been alone in an office?   Stand by for fireworks if I am ever again asked this sort of thing.

Can you deal with paper filing systems?
This was such a crass question that I literally did not understand it when it was asked.  At the time my brain just did not take it in as meaningful English, and I found myself wondering what sort of systems they could possibly be talking about.

I have had only three good interviews in recent months:  one was with Borders Primary Care, which landed me a temporary position;  the other two were, noticeably, both with private firms (not public bodies) and were conducted by one interviewer - not the panels of three that seem de rigueur for any public job nowadays, even one paying less than 10k.  Sooner or later my inborn courtesy will be overwhelmed by a desire to answer, "What sort of a stupid bloody question is that?".  It may mean a long time on the dole;  but for one day at least I'll feel bloody good.

 
© D W Bogle 01 Jan 2002